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paul ii. it's not usual. he doesn't usually hold his weekly audiences like that, but this is the day before he resigns and, therefore, a little extra is going into this general audience. i'm here now with my colleagues at 4:45 a.m., that would be 10:45 a.m. here the pope starts to read and there will be other biblical readings. he will also have his greeting. and we'll wait to see whether in fact he puts a special farewell message into what is often planned readings for these particular days. we're still in lent. and as i'm here with john allen and jim bittermann, this is a special time not just because of the resignation of this pope, the first time in more than 600 years since 1450, but it is lent, that carries a whole different sort of significance of sacrifice and preparation for the catholic church's most significant holiday. >> that's right. lent is a period of penance and spiritual preparation for holy week. and ultimately his triumphant rising from the grave on easter sunday. and actua
paul ii. it's not usual. he doesn't usually hold his weekly audiences like that, but this is the day before he resigns and, therefore, a little extra is going into this general audience. i'm here now with my colleagues at 4:45 a.m., that would be 10:45 a.m. here the pope starts to read and there will be other biblical readings. he will also have his greeting. and we'll wait to see whether in fact he puts a special farewell message into what is often planned readings for these particular days....
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but right now all of that timing is being worked out. suzanne. >> all right. deb, thank you. i appreciate it. >>> the former navy s.e.a.l. who reportedly fired the shot that killed osama bin laden is said to be furious with the u.s. military. he has no pension or medical insurance, and according to an investigative piece in esquire magazine called the man who shot and killed osama bin laden, the shooter who is not named, he told a friend, this is a quote here, he says if i get killed on this next deployment. i know my family will be taken care of. but if i come back and retire, i won't hav
pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but...
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paul ii. i saw him in may when i visited rome for our visit that the bishops are required to make to rome every five years to give an accounting of how we're running our local churches. he was alert but certainly very frail. i remember earlier, when i came to miami, i asked my priest to retire from my parish. he was 80 something years old. i told him i wanted him to retire, and he said, did i do something wrong? i said, no, father, but 83 is 83. the pope is 85 years old, and 85 is 85. you can imagine that at that age the rigors of the office, of running a universal church is indeed very pressing. >> one would imagine. at the same time, real ly, the present would tell you they don't retire. they die in office. we know that john paul ii had prepared twice to resign but never actually came -- >> this is not the first time the pope has resigned. first time in about 400 years, but the church is an institution that dates back to the time of st. peter, who was the first pope, and in those 2,000 years
paul ii. i saw him in may when i visited rome for our visit that the bishops are required to make to rome every five years to give an accounting of how we're running our local churches. he was alert but certainly very frail. i remember earlier, when i came to miami, i asked my priest to retire from my parish. he was 80 something years old. i told him i wanted him to retire, and he said, did i do something wrong? i said, no, father, but 83 is 83. the pope is 85 years old, and 85 is 85. you can...
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paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of his life. benedict xvi, while i think certainly ahe certainly admiring john paul, thinks that's not the path that every pope takes. some of the difficulties the vatican faced in recent years. internal disarray relating to the leaked crisis. the damage imposed upon the public image of the church by the sex abuse scandals and so on, it's clear that that has taken a toll on benedict xvi, he has struggled with that personally and it may well be that the people who have seen the cumulative effect of that, that the church needs a new lease on life and a fresh
paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of...
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john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen today when the pope meets with the cardinals. can you walk us through that? >> sure. >> yesterday in st. peter's square there were upwards of 50,000 people or more giving that public witness. this will be the most with his closest collaborators over the years. the pope's personal collaborators are the bishops throughout the world and in a particular way it's the cardinals standing at the heart of those, many of the cardinals of the people who workday to day in the vatican who work with the pope on a regular basis. who see him week in, week out. the
john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen...
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pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all being sinners or is this just typical? >> what did he say about the problem of priestly sexual abuse before he became pope? he said we got to get rid of the filth. that was the word he used. these priests who would dare molest anybody. so he was an outspoken man. he knows we're all sinners. the pope himself goes to confession. he understands that. but he also understands most priests are good men and to have their name and their hair damage be smernlged -- >> i can't imagine the person who listens to the pope's confession. what a remarkable thing. bill, thank you for taking the time
pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all...
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there hasn't been an italian pope since before john paul ii, who is polish and then we had our german pope with pope benedict. could it be an african pope, latin pope, a younger pope, and also a pope that could lead the church out of these sex abuse scandals. >> what's the possibility of it being a pope with a bit more diversity? >> it's quite likely. it could happen. but it's always been difficult to predict who the next pope will be. and often times the predictions run afoul. they turn out not to be correct. >> okay. so how does the catholic church -- how does the vatican then shake this bad press? and to move forward, to look for the next pope? >> well, i think that the cardinals who are tasked with the selection of the next pope have a big task. and they will be sequestered in the sistine chapel, and they will, according to the rules, pray and try to select the next pope through prayer, politicking is looked down upon. but before they go into the chapel, they hear two sermons about the future of the church and what the next pope should be attending to. so i'm sure these things wil
there hasn't been an italian pope since before john paul ii, who is polish and then we had our german pope with pope benedict. could it be an african pope, latin pope, a younger pope, and also a pope that could lead the church out of these sex abuse scandals. >> what's the possibility of it being a pope with a bit more diversity? >> it's quite likely. it could happen. but it's always been difficult to predict who the next pope will be. and often times the predictions run afoul. they...
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pope john paul ii was in his 80s when he died. pope benedict, he's almost 86. you know, it depends, it depends. what the cardinals are looking for. what the cardinals are seeking. in someone to take pope benedict's place. you know, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather. and was just an interesting different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know from having met him, you know the gentle kind way that he had. but, you know, i think that depends on what the college of cardinals is looking for. you know, pope benedict was a teacher. and he spent his pontiffate, his papacy, teaching. he taught well and with great clarity. so it's a matter of preference of the college of cardinals and also, as we believe in the church, the working of the holy spirit. >> we'll stay in very close touch with you, bishop, thank you so much. thanks for everything that you've done. thanks for inviting me to catholic university, once between. i really appreciate it. and thanks for coming here to "t
pope john paul ii was in his 80s when he died. pope benedict, he's almost 86. you know, it depends, it depends. what the cardinals are looking for. what the cardinals are seeking. in someone to take pope benedict's place. you know, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather. and was just an interesting different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know from having met him, you know the gentle kind way that he...
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paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gone because of his quote homosexual problem. those are the allegations of lawyers who questioned him in a deposition. allegations that he has denied. lay lawyers say even with that knowledge
paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy...
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paul. >> somewhere in a dictionary under the word evangelist is a picture of pope john paul ii. the basic diagnosis among many cardinals about benedict's papacy is he was a magnificent teaching pope but a mixed bag as a business manager. you asked where the fault lines are. first of all, you're never going to find any one guy who perfectly incarnates all these three things so which is the most important. what do we absolutely have to have and what can we settle for less than the idea. >> in terms of management and governability of the vatican and all the church's affairs, there's been financial scandals and the sex abuse scandal we have talked about for so long. a senior brazilian cardinal acknowledged of course this is going to be on the minds of the cardinals as they elect the next pope. that this business must be finished. would you say that's accurate? >> oh, absolutely. i, of course, have been talking to cardinals since this news broke. certainly i think, again, there are different ideas and different visions. but one thing that they would be almost unanimously saying is th
paul. >> somewhere in a dictionary under the word evangelist is a picture of pope john paul ii. the basic diagnosis among many cardinals about benedict's papacy is he was a magnificent teaching pope but a mixed bag as a business manager. you asked where the fault lines are. first of all, you're never going to find any one guy who perfectly incarnates all these three things so which is the most important. what do we absolutely have to have and what can we settle for less than the idea....
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>> it's interesting, in our lifetime, pope paul the vi was in his 80s and pope john paul ii was 85. it depends. it depends. what the cardinals are looking for, what the cardinals are seeking in someone to take pope benedict's place, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather, it was a interesting and different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know, from having met him, the gentle kind way that he had. but, you know, i think that depends on what the college of cardinals is looking for. pope benedict was a teacher and he spent his time teaching and he taught well and with great clarity. so, it is a matter of preference of the college of cardinals and as we believe in the church the working of the holy spirit. >> we will stay in close touch with you, bishop. thank you so much, and thank you for everything that you have done. thanks for inviting me to catholic university, i appreciate it and thank you for coming here to the situation room. >> it was great to be with you, wolf, you take care. god bl
>> it's interesting, in our lifetime, pope paul the vi was in his 80s and pope john paul ii was 85. it depends. it depends. what the cardinals are looking for, what the cardinals are seeking in someone to take pope benedict's place, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather, it was a interesting and different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know, from having met him, the gentle kind way that he...
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not a reclus, but not john paul ii rock star? can he retreat in the vatican or have that extra mile of transparency and accountability as well to convince catholics that this is going to be a clean house? >> i think john paul revolutionized the papacy for all times. they knew their local bishop and knew there was a pope in rome, but they didn't expect to get messages on twitter or seeing him on tv, waiting for the next time the pope will come to town. benedict xvi said himself this morning, he understand that when you become pope, you lose your privacy. you become the property of the world. in terms of the transparency and accountability thing, i think everyone will recognize the catholic church is in a way a pretty modern institution struggling to come to terms with the post modern world and getting up to snuff so to speak in terms of transparency and accountability as part of the task. >> indeed it is, john. thank you for that. and we'll be checking in regularly throughout the day. although normal public visions of the pope rig
not a reclus, but not john paul ii rock star? can he retreat in the vatican or have that extra mile of transparency and accountability as well to convince catholics that this is going to be a clean house? >> i think john paul revolutionized the papacy for all times. they knew their local bishop and knew there was a pope in rome, but they didn't expect to get messages on twitter or seeing him on tv, waiting for the next time the pope will come to town. benedict xvi said himself this...
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paul ii or pope benedict xvi. the things like ordination of women in the priesthood, i do not believe it's realistic to think that whoever emerges from the sistine chapel is the next pope of the catholic church is going to overturn church teachings on those points. i do think what is perhaps not only realistic, but quite probable, is that one thing that is very much going to be on the minds of the cardinals who are electing the next pope, whatever else they do, it is critical to make sure whoever they pick has a profile of having clean hands on the crisis, that is, he has to come across as part of the solution to this crisis rather than part of the problem. >> john, thanks so much for your analysis as always. and also, michael, thanks for joining us. >> coming up, the oscar pistorius case apracticing worldwide attention. everybody has an opinion on what they believe happened. >> wait until you see this story. a mother and father in south africa they know they say firsthand what the athlete is going through. humans
paul ii or pope benedict xvi. the things like ordination of women in the priesthood, i do not believe it's realistic to think that whoever emerges from the sistine chapel is the next pope of the catholic church is going to overturn church teachings on those points. i do think what is perhaps not only realistic, but quite probable, is that one thing that is very much going to be on the minds of the cardinals who are electing the next pope, whatever else they do, it is critical to make sure...
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last time was very different because the papacy of john paul ii was so long. this time it's going to be a little different. the history of how this conclave will play out will be all new. >> john allen, can you hear me from rome? >> reporter: yes, i can. >> all right, john, great. great to have you. by the way, in case you didn't hear it for yourself, cardinal dolan gave you a shoutout in his interview, saying that you were closest to what the reckonings -- >> i agree with your assessment, it was a fantastic interview. >> he was spot-on about that, we know that much. john, let me ask you. the obvious intrigue is of course this is different what's happening with pope benedict, not since 600 years, but how do you think that may translate and how this process will be different. how will the difference carry through to the general congregations, the conclave, the choice. is this going to be new in many different ways? >> reporter: yeah, i've actually done a column for the paper laying out ten different ways that this thing is in contrast to the last conclave in 20
last time was very different because the papacy of john paul ii was so long. this time it's going to be a little different. the history of how this conclave will play out will be all new. >> john allen, can you hear me from rome? >> reporter: yes, i can. >> all right, john, great. great to have you. by the way, in case you didn't hear it for yourself, cardinal dolan gave you a shoutout in his interview, saying that you were closest to what the reckonings -- >> i agree...
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benedict xvi was different from john paul ii in many ways. so if we mean things bigger than issues, if we mean tonality and approach and personality, those kinds of things, i think it's reasonable to think there might be changes on those scores. >> john allen and sister donna, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. while cardinal roger mahoney is in rome to pick the next pope back in the united states he's accused of protecting pedophile priests. anderson cooper investigates tonight on cnn. >>> back in the united states tensions are rising at the nation's airports, with the government's forced spending cuts due to kick in two days from now airports big and small are bracing for delays and more headaches for air travelers. cnn's tori dunnin explains. >> reporter: sun air flight 2455 d carrying three passengers is headed for nearby dulles airport. >> see you later. >> reporter: a half-hour trip. it's one of up to six commercial flights a day. >> roger runway 2-7, taxi way delta. >> reporter: today there's a controller in th
benedict xvi was different from john paul ii in many ways. so if we mean things bigger than issues, if we mean tonality and approach and personality, those kinds of things, i think it's reasonable to think there might be changes on those scores. >> john allen and sister donna, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. while cardinal roger mahoney is in rome to pick the next pope back in the united states he's accused of protecting pedophile priests. anderson cooper...